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==Weapon Base Weights==
{{saved-post
| category = Game Design Discussions
| topic = Research and Investigation
| author = HOFMANNM1
| subject = Re: Materials and Weight Mods, Weapon Base Weights
| date = 9/9/2006 4:12:20 PM
| messagenum = 3054
}}
{| {{prettytable}}
|-
| tigerclaw|| <2
|-
| dagger|| 1
|-
| main gauche|| 2
|-
| rapier|| 3
|-
| estoc|| 4
|-
| cudgel|| 4
|-
| short sword|| 4
|-
| longsword|| 5
|-
| backsword|| 5
|-
| scimitar|| 5
|-
| quarterstaff|| 5
|-
| broadsword|| 5
|-
| crowbill|| 5
|-
| pilum ||5
|-
| handaxe|| 6
|-
| katana|| 6
|-
| war hammer|| 7
|-
| maul|| 8
|-
| mace|| 8
|-
| awl-pike|| 8
|-
| military pick|| 8
|-
| halberd|| 9
|-
| battle axe|| 9
|-
| ball and chain|| 9
|-
| hammer of Kai|| 9
|-
| jeddart-axe|| 9
|-
| bastard sword|| 9
|-
| flamberge|| 10
|-
| greatsword|| 12
|-
| lance|| 15
|}

Besides brawlers, that has everything covered except falchion, whip-blade, katar, morning star, whip, ball & chain, flail, war mattock, spear, javelin, and trident. I can snag a javelin, flail, and mattock from creatures, the rest I dunno.

I'm going to look into the costs for materials and weapons, but if anyone happens to have (storebought) material gear, that would really help. I've got imflass nailed, everything else is up in the air.

-Anathemus' player

==Brawling and Additional Weapons==
{{saved-post
| category = Game Design Discussions
| topic = Research and Investigation
| author = SPYRIDONM4
| subject = Re: Materials and Weight Mods, Weapon Base Weights
| date = 9/10/2006 12:37:04 AM
| messagenum = 3055
}}
{| {{prettytable}}
| Tiger-claw || 1
|-
| Knuckle-duster || 1
|-
| Hook-knife || 1
|-
| Cestus || 2
|-
| Knuckle-blade || 2
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| Paingrip || 2
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| Razorpaw || 2
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| Yierka-spur || 2
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| Blackjack || 3
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| Jackblade || 3
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| Troll-claw || 3
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| Fist-scythe || 4
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| Katar || 4
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| Falchion || 5
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| Morning star || 8
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| Trident || 12
|}

I'm missing the Sai from the brawlers.

Also, I have some shining vultite platemail (ABP). It is off-the-shelf from RR, but purchased several years ago, so its reliability may be suspect. It inspects as mainly crafted from vultite and weighs 23. As a reference, basic, off-the-shelf ABP weighs 25 and MBP 23.

Mark

==Material Weight Modifiers, Armors, Shields==
{{saved-post
| category = Game Design Discussions
| topic = Research and Investigation
| author = SPYRIDONM4
| subject = Re: Materials and Weight Mods, Weapon Base Weights
| date = 9/11/2006 10:12:56 PM
| messagenum = 3059
}}I have a few of the material weight mods. Further research may prove unnecessary if Coase receives permission to post the official modifiers to the website materials page, when it is updated.

Anathemus' player has established that the standard base modifier to be used is 1 (steel), and that imflass is .7. I have incorporated these into the table below.

{| {{prettytable}}
!Material!!Weight<br>Modifier
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|Imflass || style = text-align:center | 0.70
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|Bronze || style = text-align:center | 0.80
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|Modwir || style = text-align:center | 1.00
|-
|Steel || style = text-align:center | 1.00
|-
|Wood || style = text-align:center | 1.00
|-
|Iron || style = text-align:center | 1.25
|-
|Obsidian || style = text-align:center | 1.40
|}

Example: Standard Augmented Breastplate weighs 25 lbs. If crafted from bronze that same ABP would weigh 20 lbs. Base weight (25) x modifier (.8) = 20 lbs.

The next two tables are the standard weights for armor and shields (didn't know if they were readily available anywhere).
{| {{prettytable}}
|+ '''Armor Base Weights'''
!AsG!!Name!!Weight
|-
|2||Flowing robes||8
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|5||Light leather||10
|-
|6||Full leather||13
|-
|7||Reinforced leather||15
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|8||Double leather||16
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|9||Leather breastplate||16
|-
|10||Cuirbouilli leather||17
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|11||Studded leather||20
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|12||Brigandine armor||25
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|13||Chain mail||25
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|14||Double chain||25
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|15||Augmented chain||26
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|16||Chain hauberk||27
|-
|17||Metal breastplate||23
|-
|18||Augmented breastplate||25
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|19||Half plate||50
|-
|20||Full plate||75
|}

{| {{prettytable}}
|+ '''Shield Base Weights'''
!Size!!Type!!Weight
|-
|Small||Kidney||5
|-
|Medium/std.||Target||8
|-
|Large||Round||10
|-
|Tower/Wall||Greatshield||12
|}

Encumbrance Messages:

Wearing Bronze Full Plate (60 lbs.) -

>Your load is a bit heavy, but you feel confident that the weight is not affecting your actions very much.

Wearing Steel (standard) Full Plate (75 lbs.) -

>You feel somewhat weighed down, but can still move well, though you realize you are not as quick as you could be.

Wearing Obsidian Full Plate (105 lbs.) -

>You can't quite get comfortable, and are definitely feeling the effects of the weight you are carrying. Lightening your load could help.

Mark

==More Material Weight Modifiers and Additional Weapon Base Weights==
{{saved-post
| category = Game Design Discussions
| topic = Research and Investigation
| author = SPYRIDONM4
| subject = Re: Materials and Weight Mods, Weapon Base Weights
| date = 9/13/2006 4:19:55 AM
| messagenum = 3064
}}''>I'll take your word for the round function. Would be curious to see if it pans out, or how often. At least we have a better idea now.''

Anathemus' player's theory holds up quite well. I was able to find a weight of 83 for full plate (75 base weight) but it was an extremely rare result.

>''Who wants to buy the vultite full plate and find out that one? :)''

{| {{prettytable|text-align:center;}}
!Material!!Weight Modifier
|-
| Imflass||.7
|-
| Bronze||.8
|-
| Vultite||.8*
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| Mithril||.9
|-
| Modwir||1
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| Ora||1
|-
| Ruby||1
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| Steel||1
|-
| Wood||1
|-
| Iron||1.25
|-
| Obsidian||1.4
|-
| Glaes||1.5
|}

: * I've only been able to narrow the range of the vultite mod to min .8 - max .86

I purchased a vultite lance (base weight 15) and it turns out to weigh 12 pounds. After reselling it, I managed to limit the net loss to 25k...substantially better than the beating I would have taken on vultite plate. I suspect that .8 is probably the actual modifier. Some vultite MBP would narrow it down even further, but my accountant said, "enough already!".

Couple of more weapon base weights:

*Whip - 5
*War Mattock - 8
*Bows (short, composite, long) - 3
*Light Crossbow - 8
*Heavy Crossbow - 12

Mark

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