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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;updated page to include new player-guide template&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{Player-guide&lt;br /&gt;
|date=2006-07-23&lt;br /&gt;
|updated=2018-03-31&lt;br /&gt;
|topic=Instruments&lt;br /&gt;
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{|{{prettytable | float:right; margin-left: 2em;}}&lt;br /&gt;
|-style = &amp;quot;background:#DDD; color: black&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|+ &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Skill Level by Rank&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
!Title || Ranks&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=white align=center&lt;br /&gt;
|Novice|| 1 to 5&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=LightPink align=center&lt;br /&gt;
|Apprentice||6 to 13&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=LightBlue align=center&lt;br /&gt;
|Journeyman||14 to 19&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=Gold align=center&lt;br /&gt;
|Adept||20&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
Non-bards can learn ten steps of the twenty and they can learn five of the ten messages (Every odd rank is a new message) for any given instrument. They can gain the rank of a bardic apprentice on their instruments--the in-game equivalent of being a gifted amateur.&lt;br /&gt;
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A [[bard]] with 4 Ranks in an instrument class can TUNE instruments of that class.&lt;br /&gt;
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Being Adept and a rank 19 Journeyman is indiscernible except when an Adept [[PLAY (verb)|plays]] a Master quality instrument. They are able to evoke the Adept tune out of it. Other less tangible differences are the bonuses to [[1001]], [[1020]], and [[1030]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Each step or rank is when you get the &amp;quot;You feel a sense of accomplishment&amp;quot; message.&lt;br /&gt;
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It takes as long to learn the last 5 steps as it did to learn the previous 15.&lt;br /&gt;
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{|{{prettytable | float:right; margin-left: 2em;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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|+&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Approximate Cumulative Time&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
!Rank ||Hours&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=white align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 1st || Immediate&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=white align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 2nd || 16 min&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=white align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 3rd || 1:06 hr&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=white align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 4th || 2:12 hr&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=white align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 5th || 3:48 hr&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=LightPink align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 6th || 5:00 hr&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=LightPink align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 7th || 7:42 hr&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=LightPink align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 8th || 9:36 hr&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=LightPink align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 9th || 13:42 hr&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=LightPink align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 10th || 18:12 hr&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=LightPink align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 11th || 22:48 hr&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=LightPink align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 12th || 28:30 hr&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=LightPink align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 13th || 34:24 hr&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=LightBlue align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 14th || 41:12 hr&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=LightBlue align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 15th || 50:00 hr&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=LightBlue align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 16th || 58:54 hr&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=LightBlue align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 17th || 70:36 hr&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=LightBlue align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 18th || 83:36 hr&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=LightBlue align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 19th || 96:42 hr&lt;br /&gt;
|-bgcolor=Gold align=center&lt;br /&gt;
| 20th || 115:18 hr&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
It doesn&amp;#039;t hurt you to learn more than one instrument, but as a bard you may want to try to master one family first. This is because some songs receive a bonus if you are playing when you sing the song.&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&amp;#039;t think there is a limit of how much you can learn in one level but there is a possibility that you may learn a bit quicker as you age. I was fully mastered in the original 5 instrument families around the same time I reached 20th train (title). Most of that was done in the last few trains.&lt;br /&gt;
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Total time played appears to be the basis of advancing from one step to another, which I will explain as best as I am able below.&lt;br /&gt;
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First a few facts of my learning.&lt;br /&gt;
# I have mastered all six instrument family (Adept in all that is)&lt;br /&gt;
# It took me 7 or 8 months of practicing an average of 3 to 4 hours a day.&lt;br /&gt;
# Most of this was done with few or no other people in the area at the time.&lt;br /&gt;
# I played &amp;quot;complete&amp;quot; songs most of that time (until they ended on their own).&lt;br /&gt;
# I cycled through the different styles so that I ultimately played each one about the same amount of time.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh yes, don&amp;#039;t forget to TUNE your instrument from time to time.  This may affect your learning rate and will definitely affect which messages you get / songs you can play with an instrument.  The quality of the instrument doesn&amp;#039;t seem to matter. However, you will not be able to tune your instrument automatically.&lt;br /&gt;
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Each complete song lasts between 5 and 5 1/2 minutes. Bear in mind I kept VERY good track of how many songs I completed and I did not count unfinished songs. Given this, you should expect to see advancement at approximately the following amounts of time played.&lt;br /&gt;
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The difference between my quickest and slowest mastery was about 15hrs.&lt;br /&gt;
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I seriously doubt anyone else has kept track of this learning as I have done, but it looks like there are definite steps involved. There is some variation but it does not seem at all random to me.&lt;br /&gt;
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We can also control which message we play with an instrument now.  Bards should be able to do this at any skill level.  Non-bards can do so once they have advanced to their maximum skill level.  You can use [[PLAY (verb)|PLAY]] to get a quick description of the various options and syntax.  For example, you can PLAY LUTE FAST 8.  Trying to play a specific message when not skilled enough to play that particular message (or using an instrument that is out of tune) will just initiate playing using a random message.&lt;br /&gt;
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I hope this helps. :)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Icewhite (with some edits)&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Instrument messaging horn-type]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Instrument messaging necked stringed]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Instrument messaging percussion]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Instrument messaging pipe]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Instrument messaging stringed]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Instrument messaging woodwind]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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