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		<title>imported&gt;GS4-XERAPHINA: /* May 2015 */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;May 2015&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;==March 2015==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;section begin=savedpost2015-03 /&amp;gt;{{saved-post&lt;br /&gt;
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins&lt;br /&gt;
| topic = Duskruin Arena&lt;br /&gt;
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/149 149]&lt;br /&gt;
| author = GS4-LIIA&lt;br /&gt;
| date = 3/9/2015&lt;br /&gt;
| subject = Successful Beta Testing&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
Did anyone 130 or society &amp;quot;fog&amp;quot; out of the ratacombs? Those exit rooms are spiffy!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
~GM Liia&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Team 3P/T&amp;amp;C ASGM, Events Manager&lt;br /&gt;
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{{saved-post&lt;br /&gt;
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins&lt;br /&gt;
| topic = Duskruin Arena&lt;br /&gt;
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/203 203]&lt;br /&gt;
| author = GS4-LIIA&lt;br /&gt;
| date = 3/20/2015&lt;br /&gt;
| subject = Duskruin Arena - Treasure Promotion&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
If anyone fogs out or uses signs/symbols/sigils to get out of the sewers, TELL ME HOW MUCH YOU LOVE THE EXIT &amp;lt;3&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
~GM Liia&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Team 3P/T&amp;amp;C ASGM, Events Manager&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{saved-post&lt;br /&gt;
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins&lt;br /&gt;
| topic = Duskruin Arena&lt;br /&gt;
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/204 204]&lt;br /&gt;
| author = GS4-WYROM&lt;br /&gt;
| date = 3/20/2015&lt;br /&gt;
| subject = Duskruin Arena - SimuCoin Items&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Out of curiosity- are there any T5-ish prizes you can win while searching through the sewers?&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not like EG. But during alpha testing, we saw some amazing things go out. Platinum found some good things too. A razern katana went out in Platinum beta testing.&lt;br /&gt;
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~&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Wyrom, APM&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{saved-post&lt;br /&gt;
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins&lt;br /&gt;
| topic = Duskruin Arena&lt;br /&gt;
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/337 337]&lt;br /&gt;
| author = GS4-LIIA&lt;br /&gt;
| date = 3/23/2015&lt;br /&gt;
| subject = Everyone stinks.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
In case you didn&amp;#039;t look around when you come out of the sewers, here is what you&amp;#039;re climbing out of:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[Bloodriven Village, Cesspool]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The floor of this putrid pit is quaggy and wet beneath about three feet of liquid sewage. A few roots stick out from the tall dirt walls, covered in slick sludge. A wet and rotting rope dangles over the side from above, where a shaft of light descends through a small overhead circle.&lt;br /&gt;
Obvious paths: none&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You reach up and try to grab the rope. Your hands slip before grasping tightly enough to climb up. Dripping and smelly, you do so.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[Abandoned Building]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Not a single piece of furniture is left in this dusty room. A splintered crate filled with random litter sits against one wall, beneath a cracked and dirty window. The air holds a foul, musty odor that emanates strongly from the piles of rat droppings located in the shadowy corners. You also see a set of crumbling steps.&lt;br /&gt;
Obvious paths: out&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;l steps&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
What was once a railing is now only a few broken, splintered posts. The stairs are rotted through, and those that remain somewhat intact are obviously not capable of supporting anything heavier than a small sparrow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;l behind steps&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Behind the crumbling steps you see a feculent privy hole.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;l hole&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
A round hole has been cut from the floor boards. Inside, it is, thankfully, quite dark.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
~GM Liia, thinks you ALL need baths.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Team 3P/T&amp;amp;C ASGM, Events Manager&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{saved-post&lt;br /&gt;
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins&lt;br /&gt;
| topic = Duskruin Arena&lt;br /&gt;
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/355 355]&lt;br /&gt;
| author = GS4-VANAH&lt;br /&gt;
| date = 3/24/2015&lt;br /&gt;
| subject = Possible bug in the ratacombs&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;It is possible that the system actually always puts you back in a room you&amp;#039;ve searched before, but it is more probably just a minor bug.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
YOU aren&amp;#039;t moved when the maze shifts. You stay in the room you are in. All of the exits now lead to different rooms. Since it&amp;#039;s random, some of the same rooms might be connected again.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you&amp;#039;ve already searched the room you are in, and the maze shifts, you still can&amp;#039;t search again in the room you are in. You&amp;#039;re in the same place, you just lost your orientation of the rooms around you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
~Vanah&amp;lt;section end=savedpost2015-03 /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
==May 2015==&lt;br /&gt;
{{#section:Duskruin/saved posts May 2015|savedpost}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{#section:Duskruin/saved posts May 2015|savedpost2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;section begin=savedpost2015-05 /&amp;gt;{{saved-post&lt;br /&gt;
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins&lt;br /&gt;
| topic = Duskruin Arena&lt;br /&gt;
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/704 704]&lt;br /&gt;
| author = GS4-WYROM&lt;br /&gt;
| date = 5/2/2015&lt;br /&gt;
| subject = Did loot get turned down to zero?&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
Just to remove all sorts of anecdotal information.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is an 8.3% chance to be swept up by sewage upon any given search.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you&amp;#039;re in the proper room with a rat, you have a 25% chance to catch it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You have a 12.5% chance to find loot in the sewers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quality of loot is highly dependent on your level (not experience). A level 5 person can&amp;#039;t find a 6x broadsword. The loot generator takes your level and randomizes it to find the level of loot.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Comparing the Ratacombs on opening night last time won&amp;#039;t be a good benchmark. Finding good loot should be equivalent to a slot machine. The majority of pulls will be lackluster. That&amp;#039;s always been the same.&lt;br /&gt;
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~&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Wyrom, APM&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{saved-post&lt;br /&gt;
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins&lt;br /&gt;
| topic = Duskruin Arena&lt;br /&gt;
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/729 729]&lt;br /&gt;
| author = GS4-WYROM&lt;br /&gt;
| date = 5/2/2015&lt;br /&gt;
| subject = Did loot get turned down to zero?&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Out of curiosity, what was the purpose of adding this factor? Does it count against 1 of our 10 searches?&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It does not count. Anyone who has gone should be able to confirm that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;1) Loot quality at the beginning of the first Duskruin event WAS better.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No. You just had a guarantee to find a rat. The quality has never changed. It cannot change. There are no fundamentals at play here. I did not code the random loot generator. It&amp;#039;s the same one you experience in game, every day. But because of the rat guarantee, you were finding loot at a guaranteed level as well, which is hard to explain because you&amp;#039;d have to be able to see it. It&amp;#039;s not that you found more or better. But you were finding loot in specific rooms without a doubt.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;2) Players should NOT expect it to be as good even again.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Again, that&amp;#039;s not what you should be taking away from it. Either you had really good luck the first time, or really bad luck right now. I had a test run earlier with only 10 data points, but I was able to confirm people were finding good stuff and within the parameters meant to be.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Is a bound critter suppose to be able to push you into a trap? Also, both pushes occurred right after the bind and in quick succession.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmm, must be two types of binding mechanics. I&amp;#039;ll fix this.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Is there a ceiling to this effect, or should I expect in advance when I buy passes that I will never be able to find top tier treasure?&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Loot in GS is highly dependent on level.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Interestingly enough, with the new swept away mechanic and the drop in loot value... Once you have a rat, the arena is now the better option- as it gives about twice the bloodscrip.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You found the exact same number of bloodscrip in the arena before. It&amp;#039;s just quicker now. The arena gives exp (on top of kills), silver, loot, and bloodscrip. It always did. And there was NEVER a drop in loot value. The Ratacombs were NEVER better in bloodscrip value.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;The math seems wonky.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As a math instructor, I&amp;#039;m not sure I follow.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Re: Sewage Sweeper&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&amp;#039;ll do something else with this.&lt;br /&gt;
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~&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Wyrom, APM&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;section end=savedpost2015-05 /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==July 2015==&lt;br /&gt;
{{#section:Duskruin/saved posts July 2015|savedpost}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==August 2015==&lt;br /&gt;
{{#section:Duskruin/saved posts August 2015|savedpost}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;section begin=savedpost2015-08 /&amp;gt;{{saved-post&lt;br /&gt;
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins&lt;br /&gt;
| topic = Duskruin Arena&lt;br /&gt;
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/2221 2221]&lt;br /&gt;
| author = GS4-WYROM&lt;br /&gt;
| date = 8/23/2015&lt;br /&gt;
| subject = A proposal for the sewers&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
I realize the sewers are a controversial subject, since you can move much faster to gain bloodscrip. From a pricing standpoint, I wanted the arena to be twice as effective as the sewers, and last run I hit that mark. That means in order to earn as much as you can in the arena, it would cost you twice as much in the sewers. Money is a very big factor here. I&amp;#039;m contemplated what to do to slow down the sewers over and over. I feel hard roundtime is the wrong way to go. When I added the washout effect, I had emails, posts, and messages on how awful that was, so I dropped it down to a &amp;quot;fumble&amp;quot; type search. The only real measure that is feasible is a cooldown, and that is going to come with some serious ramifications. It&amp;#039;s not something I have the time to deal with right now, and it&amp;#039;s going to need to be something that will get deliberated on next time.&lt;br /&gt;
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Scripting, by itself, is allowed in GS. If it wasn&amp;#039;t, we&amp;#039;d also have to enforce no third-party overlays like Lich. The people in the sewers are there or have really good ways to make sure they can be there. I&amp;#039;m a no nonsense staff member when it comes to script checks. I don&amp;#039;t worry about if I was clear on my check because I&amp;#039;m usually pretty upfront. You miss one of my checks, you&amp;#039;re not there. As a big time warning though, you and ALL OF YOUR LINKED ACCOUNTS get their bloodscrip confiscated and you become banned from the sewers for 30 days. That means if you transferred a character to someone else, you&amp;#039;re still responsible for whoever takes control of that character. Any history follows that character. You can ride, but you can&amp;#039;t hide, etc etc. But again, everyone has been pretty good at being at the keys when I check.&lt;br /&gt;
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~&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Wyrom, APM&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;section end=savedpost2015-08 /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==April 2016==&lt;br /&gt;
{{#section:MoonShard pendant/saved posts|savedpost}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{#section:Duskruin/saved posts April 2016|savedpost}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==April 2017==&lt;br /&gt;
{{#section:Duskruin/saved posts April 2017|savedpost}}{{top}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==August 2017==&lt;br /&gt;
{{#section:Duskruin/saved posts August 2017|savedpost}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{#section:Duskruin/saved posts August 2017|savedpost2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==February 2018==&lt;br /&gt;
{{#section:Duskruin/saved posts February 2018|savedpost}}{{top}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==June 2018==&lt;br /&gt;
{{#section:Duskruin/saved posts June 2018|savedpost2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{#section:Bag of Holding/saved posts|savedpost}}{{top}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==August 2019==&lt;br /&gt;
{{#section:Duskruin/saved posts August 2019|savedpost}}{{top}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==February 2020==&lt;br /&gt;
{{#section:Duskruin/saved posts February 2020|savedpost}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;section begin=savedpost2020-02 /&amp;gt;{{saved-post&lt;br /&gt;
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins&lt;br /&gt;
| topic = Duskruin Arena&lt;br /&gt;
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/11721 11721]&lt;br /&gt;
| author = SIMU-WYROM&lt;br /&gt;
| date = 2/15/2020&lt;br /&gt;
| subject = Rat Catcher&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
The rat catcher will once again buy rats for 100 bloodscrip if you wish to sell them. You must hand him the rat itself. You can DROP the sack in the sewers to get rid of it afterward.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During this process, I noticed that rats themselves were a bit broken in some areas. I resolved what I could see. If you notice any odd behavior, please post them here or in the items and inventory area (or simply BUGITEM them in game).&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Wyrom, PM&amp;lt;section end=savedpost2020-02 /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==February 2021==&lt;br /&gt;
{{#section:Duskruin/saved posts February 2021|savedpost}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==August 2021==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;section begin=savedpost2021-08 /&amp;gt;{{saved-post&lt;br /&gt;
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins&lt;br /&gt;
| topic = Paid Events&lt;br /&gt;
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/13439 13439]&lt;br /&gt;
| author = SIMU-WYROM&lt;br /&gt;
| date = 8/13/2021&lt;br /&gt;
| subject = Duskruin Endless and Updates&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
One more update I forgot to mention.&lt;br /&gt;
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Wearing a rat &amp;quot;perfume&amp;quot; into the sewers will greatly improve your chances that you&amp;#039;ll be able to see a rat in the sewers. It also greatly improves your changes to catching it.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Wyrom, PM&amp;lt;section end=savedpost2021-08 /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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